[quote NAK5FEY1AX27BMLQ]The Vauxhall Viva before the HB Torana (rebadge Vauxhall) was a very basic car and only sold to non-car and poor people. While the HB Torana was a rebadge gen two Viva, it firmly hit the sweep spot for a small car with the Holden name. It looked like a scaled down Chevrolet or Pontiac with balance and proportions. The round headlights suited it better than the English Viva with its rectangle lights. In two doors or doors it was a very neat design. Only let down was the weak 1,200 cc engine. When people think of Torana's, the HB is forgotten but I always thought it was the best of the three generations of Torana's. One used to race at Calder with Holden six engine and would have been a rocket as a road car.[/quote] Not a HB but (I think) an LC 4 with a six. I think it would be a rocket as well.