[quote P4RAAMFF4YFA9180]Holden HZ Kingswood. I had driven plenty of the previous model, and when I was given this as a company car, it handled so much better than I thought any Holden had a right to.[/quote] Yes, ditto on the HZ freeway. Like you, I'd driven/ridden in numerous HQ-HJ-HX predecessors, so when I first drove an HZ with RTS I was genuinely surprised and delighted by the transformation in ride and handling. It felt like Holden had suddenly changed from an American to a European manufacturer!