Agreed again, SC. A quick JD Camira anecdote; GMH were having some sort of a press preview of the JD at the Surfers Paradise Raceway. Two of the staff members remarked to the Holden guys that the cars were going to look so much better when they pull the ugly disguise off the front. I know the XE Falcon was the car that knocked Holden off the Number One perch, but after the handsome XD, I reckon it was one of the most retrograde Falcons of all of them. The softened XF wasn't much better.